Ding, ding, ding!
Lyle had this to say about a world without God:
The new atheists seem so engrossed in destroying religion and belief in God, that they have neglected to considered what a world would look like without the idea of God?
I actually think this is a fair point. I think atheists could do a better job when it comes to filling the void that will eventually happen as religion continues to weaken. I think secular communities have already done a fairly good job. For example, we now see more and more secular charities. We also have gathering places, such as humanist organizations, Unitarian churches and in some places, actual atheist churches.
My point being is that I think some atheists have put thought into what a world would look like without religion – or at least a weakened religion. I think we have a long way to go but I think that as religion continues to deteriorate in the developed world, we will strengthen this area.
Imagine if the billions we pour into building churches was put into scientific advancement or humanitarian aid. I think we could be putting the money currently going to faith groups to much better use. Also, faith groups often use their aid to spread their message to people who are disadvantaged and vulnerable.
Well I would have to agree that some religion is evil but not because religion itself is evil but rather because there are evil men in religion.
I don’t think all of religion is evil. I think you have to work harder to find the good bits in some religions than you might have to in others.
However, beliefs absolutely play a role in our behavior. I think Christianity (and other religions) have a lot to answer for in this category. They have played emotional games with people for a very, very long time.
For example, they’ve convinced people to kill, murder and maim in the name of God. They’ve convinced others that eternal torment is real and that they deserve it. They’ve also convinced others that blowing themselves up in a crowd of children will result in 72 virgins and a walk in paradise.
Without God is there any different between a lab animal and a human being? If you say, their is a different, on what ground do you justify your opinion?
I’m perfectly fine with the realization that I am one animal among many different animals on this planet. I don’t think that diminishes my worth or theirs.
This is just another example of how beliefs play a role in our actions. The idea that we’re better (made in God’s image, caretakers, in charge of creation) than other animals has led to huge amounts of needless animal suffering worldwide.
Of course, there has been other groups that have believed that, like the Nazis and the Communist.
The Nazi’s used Christianity. In fact, Hitler has many Christian quotes attributed to him. Hatred of the Jews didn’t just happen overnight. The Catholic Church had been preaching that Jews were evil for killing Christ for a long time.
There is no handbook on atheism to guide an atheists actions. If I go out and kill someone right now, it’s not because the atheist handbook told me no-God wanted it that way. There is no atheist bible to justify my actions. I would have to find my justification elsewhere, such as political systems.
Some will say I cannot believe. When people say this they are often saying that their intelligent is keeping them from believing.
You’re really preaching against intelligence?
I’m not sure that’s the best tactic, friend.
So it is not so much a question of your intellect as much as your wanttoo.It is the human ego, which has blinded many to their motives. We all like to think that our beliefs are correct because we all like to think we are smarter than the other guy.
So if I wish really, really hard I’ll believe?
I don’t think so. That ship has sailed. Now if you had some evidence, that would go a long way towards getting me to believe.
The first step on the road to faith is to ask yourself what is the real reason for you lack of faith
- lack of evidence
- contradictory holy books
- supernatural claims backed by nothing more than wishful thinking
- thousands of competing religions, all of which can’t be right
You can start with those.
Yet one thing I do know, if you find God too easily you probably have found an idol and not the true God.
God wouldn’t want to make it too easy. Then he couldn’t throw anyone into hell.