Perspective On Death and Salvation: My Thoughts

Adam and Eve hide and God must ask where they are.

Adam and Eve hide and God must ask where they are.

So in my blogging travels I ran across this piece about death and salvation, and the authors attempt to refute the argument that Yahweh would have to be either impotent or evil.

Here’s how he starts out:

Within the atheist paradigm the taking of ones life is the pinnacle of injustice and life on earth is the hallmark of reality. Thus it is no wonder that the most pervasive and prevailing argument that is raised against the existence of a benevolent God is how can He sit back and allow so many men, women, and especially children, to die at the expense of so many random acts of violence and nature? To quote the impertinent Sam Harris “God is either impotent or evil.” The obvious fallacy of this summation is that its predicated on the naturalistic assumption that life ends at the grave.

Um, not really. Whether or not life ends at the grave, your God would have to answer for all of the things you just mentioned. A perfect being would be unable to do anything that is not perfect. Do you consider cancer, Ebola, starvation, miscarriages etc perfect?

Even if I were to take your unsubstantiated claim that your Gods existence is true, and I knew I would wake up in heaven after I died, that wouldn’t negate the suffering I (and many, many other people) would still be going through.

This is to insist that someone can be the beneficiary of Christs’ atoning  death without having a conscious knowledge of Christ. We can better understand this reality through patriarchs in the OT such as Job.

So anyone can go to heaven, even those who don’t have a knowledge of Christ. That’s interesting.

Do you believe that people like me, who were Christian at one time but no longer believe, will reach heaven? And furthermore, do you believe that we deserve eternal torture for our non-belief?

But what about all the innocent children that have passed-away without ever having the opportunity to account for such measures? while not explicitly expressed in the scriptures, I personally believe in the salvation of all infants.

Why do you personally believe this?

I would suspect it’s because you’re a kind person and so you must create a route around what your scriptures teach. Many Christians do this. They either cherry pick around the bloody bits and uncomfortable scriptures or they find scripture that can be used to negate the awful parts or they embrace what it actually says and become people I wouldn’t want to hang around with.

And while I do believe, such as in the case of the Amalekites, that children are often visited by the sins of their fathers, by no means do I believe that God condemns children to hell. In such cases as the Amalekites, we are to understand that God is merely stemming the flow of wickedness.

What sort of benevolent, perfect God would hold children accountable for their parents actions?

Imagine if our court systems worked this way – when a father or mother is incarcerated, we blame the offspring as well and punish them as if they too had broken the law. In what realm is this considered just?

Your God ‘stems the flow’ by committing genocide?

Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey. -1 Samuel 15:3

Let me get this straight…you think that an all-powerful, benevolent, all-knowing God can only stem this wickedness through genocide? There really is no other way?

And it was necessary to kill even the animals?

And it needed people to do it, although such a being could do it with a thought?

If there were something horrific you needed to accomplish and you could do it easily, would you send your children to go do it?

Does this look like the work of a benevolent deity?

Does this look like the work of a benevolent deity?

Therefore, in the case of children I see it as Gods grace that they be taken from the influences of  their reprobate fathers, less surely they be raised to despise the name of the Lord.

So let’s put this into practice today. Using this bit of wisdom, you could feel justified taking children away from anyone who doesn’t follow your faith and certainly those who find your god vile.

Because of our limited perception and our naturalistic world-view, often times God’s way can seem rather mysterious.

An all-powerful being that seems mysterious could only be mysterious by choice.

It’s mysterious because it’s an unsubstantiated invisible, supernatural being.

But if there does exists a creator of the universe, and if He is supremely aware and capable, we ought to leave some room for his ways to be  altogether above our own understanding.

I suppose but his actions would still be above all else, reasonable and rational. Your God is not.

Take for example the Adam and Eve part.

The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. And the LORD God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.” (NIV, Genesis 2:15-17)

Having perfect knowledge of what was to happen, this God would know that they would eat this apple and be condemned.

Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”

This God does not know where they are? Why is he willing to take on form (makes noises when he walks) but refuses to now?

 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

Does he not know the answer? What need does a mighty deity have of asking questions like these? An all-knowing deity would know the exact moment this event would occur.

After that, this doddering deity cursed them and all of their offspring. Nothing described as being ‘compassionate, just and all-loving’ would ever do such a thing. In fact, it would be against its nature. Even humans know that you shouldn’t hold the unborn accountable for what people do while alive. That’s utterly ridiculous.

Also, there would be no reason for this God to get angry in the first place. You only get upset when something doesn’t go your way. This scenario and every scenario playing out throughout the universe would be known by this deity and everything would be going according to plan.

Why is being naked evil? Is that the best the author could come up with?

Why is being naked evil? Is that the best the author could come up with?

There are so many of these sorts of inconsistencies that this God is not reasonable or rational. It is often blood soaked, irrational and inconsistent. These inconsistencies show you that it doesn’t exist. Just like a square circle doesn’t exist.

From the Christian perspective death is but a birth into the next life, ultimately it is God that will bestow ultimate justice and judge everyone according to the light that they received.

If this were really true, Christians wouldn’t use medical care. They would rejoice when loved ones were killed. That obviously isn’t the case, thankfully.

Thanks for the food for thought, David. I wish you luck with your religion. I hope in your private moments, you will reflect on this post and all of the inconsistencies and irrational bits of the bible you hold so dear. I hope you’ll take an honest look at its content.

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23 Comments

  1. I love the baby pictures, lol. It’s right up there with a blue-eyed Jesus and a willowy blonde Mary…

    Well it is pretty suspicious. Even more so, that they even had clothes to PUT on. I’m thinking, a nice summery dress for her, nothing too revealing, and maybe cut-offs and Dockers for him…

  2. “Do you consider cancer, Ebola, starvation, miscarriages etc perfect?”

    Absolutely not, they are the product of a world filled with wickedness, the complete opposite of perfection. I consider viruses and disease God’s wrath upon a wicked people. It’s rather remarkable how elusive bacteria was designed. Because they mutate by “transforming”, or swapping DNA with other bacteria, they frequently become resistant to antibiotic treatment. Starvation, well now this seems rather disingenuous, the wealthy parts of the world become disgustingly obese while African kids starve to death, perhaps if we learned how to love our neighbors as ourselves then their wouldn’t be any starvation. God created a world where we are responsible for taking care of our brothers and sisters, we are the only ones to blame for starvation, not God. With regards to miscarriages I don’t have a specific answer, though I can’t say it’s much different from the points that I already made about death not being pinnacle of injustice, as it clearly is in the atheist paradigm.

    “Do you believe that people like me, who were Christian at one time but no longer believe, will reach heaven? And furthermore, do you believe that we deserve eternal torture for our non-belief?”

    With regards to your first question, absolutely not. You will be judged by how you responded to the revelation of Christ, only those who haven’t heard the gospel will be judged by the revelation of nature and consciousness. Great thinkers such as Descartes asserted the ontological argument that God can be known a priori as a deduction of pure reason. This I believe is very true. With regards to you second question I think it’s right that anyone who rejects God, the very source of life, must live with the consequences which is eternity in death (the absence of God).

    “Why do you personally believe this? [that all infants go to heaven]

    I would suspect it’s because you’re a kind person and so you must create a route around what your scriptures teach. Many Christians do this. They either cherry pick around the bloody bits and uncomfortable scriptures or they find scripture that can be used to negate the awful parts or they embrace what it actually says and become people I wouldn’t want to hang around with.”

    Because Jesus says in order to enter the kingdom of heaven you must be like a child. This I feel is biblical evidence for what I believe.

    What sort of benevolent, perfect God would hold children accountable for their parents actions?

    “Imagine if our court systems worked this way – when a father or mother is incarcerated, we blame the offspring as well and punish them as if they too had broken the law. In what realm is this considered just?”

    I didn’t say the children were being punished, I said God was saving the Children, not punishing them. Ultimately our actions effect more than just us, they effect everyone around us whether we like it or not. Our children are our lineage, we are directly responsible for their welfare, whether to prosperity or whether to destruction, it’s up to us.

    “Let me get this straight…you think that an all-powerful, benevolent, all-knowing God can only stem this wickedness through genocide? There really is no other way?”

    What would you prefer? mind control? God can’t stop people from being wicked because he made them with free-will. When a people become so exceedingly wicked so that not even ten righteous people can be found, then for the greater good, God will surely bring destruction upon them. I’m assuming you don’t have as much of a problem with capital punishment? if someone is cavalier with other peoples life and kills someone, then surely they deserve the recompense of their errors, right? yet when God enacts justice in this way we say He is evil, why the double standards?

    “So let’s put this into practice today. Using this bit of wisdom, you could feel justified taking children away from anyone who doesn’t follow your faith and certainly those who find your god vile.”

    Something like that would never be for me to decide.

    “Having perfect knowledge of what was to happen, this God would know that they would eat this apple and be condemned.”

    Common misconception, scriptures never teach that God knows everything we are going to do. The scriptures teach that in all his infinite wisdom God created people who are themselves “gods”, meaning we have complete and utter free-will to do whatever we choose. In genesis Ch 6 it says God repented that he made man because they were so wicked. This Calvinist doctrine of predestination is false and completely distorts what the scriptures actually teach about mans responsibility.

    “If this were really true, Christians wouldn’t use medical care. They would rejoice when loved ones were killed. That obviously isn’t the case, thankfully.”

    You’re intellectual dishonesty is a little unbecoming but I suppose this is the norm. Myself nor anyone I know has ever said something quite that ignorant.

    • “Absolutely not, they are the product of a world filled with wickedness, the complete opposite of perfection.”

      The one your god would have created with the perfect knowledge of what would happen.

      Also, a perfect being would not create imperfection.

      “With regards to your first question, absolutely not. You will be judged by how you responded to the revelation of Christ”

      Please expand on this or clarify.

      “With regards to you second question I think it’s right that anyone who rejects God, the very source of life, must live with the consequences which is eternity in death (the absence of God).”

      So death but no torture or hell? Like going to sleep but never waking up?

      “Because Jesus says in order to enter the kingdom of heaven you must be like a child. This I feel is biblical evidence for what I believe.”

      Good cherry pick but I’m glad you feel that way.

      “I didn’t say the children were being punished, I said God was saving the Children, not punishing them. ”

      How disgusting. You’re suggesting they’re being saved by being murdered.

      “Ultimately our actions effect more than just us, they effect everyone around us whether we like it or not. Our children are our lineage, we are directly responsible for their welfare, whether to prosperity or whether to destruction, it’s up to us.”

      Nice dodge. In what court of law is this judged fair punishment? Do you or do you not think punishing people who aren’t born yet for the wrongs of the people who are born is a just punishment?

      “What would you prefer? mind control? God can’t stop people from being wicked because he made them with free-will. ”

      That’s the only other option you can come up with from an all-powerful God? It’s genocide or mind control. That’s it?

      Wow.

      “I’m assuming you don’t have as much of a problem with capital punishment?”

      I’m actually completely against capital punishment, which makes the rest of your point moot.

      Either way, capital punishment is not genocide.

      “Something like that would never be for me to decide.”

      Not even a good dodge. Your mental gymnastics are slowing as you realize how bad your theology really is.

      “Common misconception, scriptures never teach that God knows everything we are going to do. ”

      What are the properties of your god then?

      “The scriptures teach that in all his infinite wisdom God created people who are themselves “gods”, meaning we have complete and utter free-will to do whatever we choose.”

      So god is justified in killing other gods or committing genocide against them?

      Wow. Your theology is more broken than I had originally anticipated. That’s a new one for me.

      “This Calvinist doctrine of predestination is false and completely distorts what the scriptures actually teach about mans responsibility.”

      Of course your theology is right. yet both are unsubstantiated.

      “You’re intellectual dishonesty is a little unbecoming but I suppose this is the norm. Myself nor anyone I know has ever said something quite that ignorant.”

      It’s your theology. Not mine. Not my fault if you profess to believe ‘death is but a birth into the next life’, but in no way act that way in reality.

      Wonder why?

      Thanks for stopping in with your thoughts. It was very interesting.

      Again, I hope you reflect on how contradictory your theology is. It must be painful to have to defend genocide and other atrocities all the time.

      • “The one your god would have created with the perfect knowledge of what would happen.”

        God created man with free-will to love or hate Him, this is the only way you can have a genuine relationship with someone, that is if someone has the choice to choose. God doesn’t create robots, what would be the point in that?

        “Please expand on this or clarify.”

        Whether or not you accept Jesus as your Lord and savior.

        “How disgusting. You’re suggesting they’re being saved by being murdered.”

        If God gives life surely He can take it away? The Amalekites killed and enslaved women and children, they reaped what they sowed. If you went around murdering children would you be surprised when God took your children from you? And in doing so God would be rescuing your child from your wicked influence, would He not?

        “In what court of law is this judged fair punishment? Do you or do you not think punishing people who aren’t born yet for the wrongs of the people who are born is a just punishment?”

        Maybe we should just start taking responsibility for our own actions, we are the only ones to blame. If we spread destruction upon others and their family, then we can be sure that we will reap what we sow. How can you compare a man made justice system based on a finite world-view, to Gods supreme knowledge and wisdom?

        “That’s the only other option you can come up with from an all-powerful God? It’s genocide or mind control. That’s it?”

        You can not change a mans heart, and if that man continues to inflict death and destruction upon others then surely he will be cast down, those who live by the sword shall die by the sword. Who are you to tell God what is right and wrong? Did you create the heavens and the earth?

        “I’m actually completely against capital punishment, which makes the rest of your point moot.”

        More than half of the country seems to disagree with you, the consensus is that capital punishment is just, an eye for an eye.

        “Either way, capital punishment is not genocide.”

        exactly my point.

        “What are the properties of your god then?”

        He is sovereign, loving and righteous, which means he must punish all sin.

        • “God doesn’t create robots, what would be the point in that?”

          Again. According to your theology, he knew what would happen before it happened.

          Try to think about that concept for a minute.

          “Whether or not you accept Jesus as your Lord and savior.”

          You keep dodging this. What will the judging entail? What could happen to me?

          “If God gives life surely He can take it away?”

          Can parents kill their babies?

          “The Amalekites killed and enslaved women and children, they reaped what they sowed.”

          So did Americans. Should god have wiped them out?

          “If you went around murdering children would you be surprised when God took your children from you? And in doing so God would be rescuing your child from your wicked influence, would He not?”

          Now your supporting infanticide. See what your theology makes you do?

          And no, my baby would not be responsible for my actions. Period.

          “Maybe we should just start taking responsibility for our own actions, we are the only ones to blame.”

          Answer the question originally posed: “In what court of law is this judged fair punishment? Do you or do you not think punishing people who aren’t born yet for the wrongs of the people who are born is a just punishment?”

          “You can not change a mans heart”

          Why can’t you? And are you saying an all-powerful god can’t do something? if so, it’s not all-powerful because there is something beyond its power.

          Your bible is also full of instances where your god hardens hearts etc.

          “More than half of the country seems to disagree with you, the consensus is that capital punishment is just, an eye for an eye.”

          Half of what country? I’m Canadian.

          “the consensus is that capital punishment is just, an eye for an eye.”

          Wasn’t long ago the consensus was that slavery was okay and withholding equal rights from gays and lesbians was fine, but guess what?

          It’s not.

          Your god would also not go by the eye for an eye. Someone does a finite evil and get judged with an eternity of torture. That’s not an eye for an eye.

          “He is sovereign, loving and righteous, which means he must punish all sin.”

          I didn’t mean its supposed personality traits. I meant its powers. Is it all-knowing and all-powerful or only sometimes these things?

          • “Again. According to your theology, he knew what would happen before it happened.”

            God can see our heart but there is not one scripture that says He foreknew what you will personally do in the future. This is a very big misconception, God created human beings with free-will, you can’t foreknow what someone with free-will is going to do, you’re simply recycling the whole “can God make a rock so big that even He can’t pick it up” sort of dichotomy. God in no way shape or form predetermined or foreknew that which would transpire after He made man, because He made them with no strings attached. Hence Genesis 6 when its says God repented that He made man on the earth because they were so wicked.

            “You keep dodging this. What will the judging entail? What could happen to me?”

            I’m not sure why you’re frustrating over this point, it’s rather obvious. If you don’t accept Jesus you go to Hades, I can’t say I know exactly what goes on down there but there is talk about a lake of fire and we know it was originally made for Satan and his fallen angles. So I doubt it will be tea and strumpets.

            “Can parents kill their babies?”

            Please, it doesn’t further the conversation when you’re purposefully disingenuous. Reproducing is a result of God’s creation, God is the source of all life.

            “So did Americans. Should god have wiped them out?”

            The destruction of America is pending, that you can be sure of.

            “And no, my baby would not be responsible for my actions. Period.”

            You mean to tell me if you wen’t around killing babies and God then proceeded to take your baby through some unforeseen tragic accident, you would try and blame God for taking your’ baby from you? You can’t keep making cheap black and white statements like my baby is not responsible for my actions, you are responsible for your babies welfare. And if you are enslaving murderer then that is going to greatly effect your’ child’s life. This is the real world, where all our actions have more serious repercussions than people like yourself are comfortable with.

            “Why can’t you? And are you saying an all-powerful god can’t do something? if so, it’s not all-powerful because there is something beyond its power.

            Your bible is also full of instances where your god hardens hearts etc.”

            Again the fallacious dichotomy is misgiven. God would never coerce someone to love Him because He is not a disingenuous God, He allows us the freedom to choose as we please. If God wanted to He could shine His light down and cause all the heathens to whimper and cower in fear, but He doesn’t want those kinds of relationship, He wants authentic relationship with people that freely choose to love Him.

            You mean He hardened Pharaohs heart after Pharaoh first hardened his own heart, if you are wicked and stubborn God will use you as a vessel of destruction as an example of all those who choose to harden their hearts before God.

            “Half of what country? I’m Canadian.”

            ..Canadian, well that’s a shame 😉

            “Wasn’t long ago the consensus was that slavery was okay and withholding equal rights from gays and lesbians was fine, but guess what?”

            Please don’t ever again mention the struggle of slavery with homosexuality, that’s a disgrace to all the African Americans that were persecuted for their color, their color is not something they had a personal choice over. Even according to purely evolutionary standards homosexuality is degenerative. But I digress..

            “I didn’t mean its supposed personality traits. I meant its powers. Is it all-knowing and all-powerful or only sometimes these things?”

            God is sovereign, He knows knows the heart of every man and He is fully capable of doing whatever he pleases (creating men with with free-will) He can role up the skies like a curtain if He wanted to, or at the snap of a finger He could change us all into monkeys. He can do whatever He pleases. When I said you can’t change the heart of a man, obviously God could reveal his nature and majesty and cause the whole world to bow before Him, but it’s out of necessity that He doesn’t do such things, because He is a genuine and authentic God.

  3. If I had to use that kind of reasoning just to get across town I’d end up in a different city everytime I stepped out the damn door…and when in doubt there is always a line or two or a notation from the Bible to help them along.

    I cut my teeth online by debating BornAgains. One thing I finally realized, they havent a clue. They don’t debate, they quote scripture at you, using the Bible like a shield.

    This is the nadir of independent thought, and once I realized that, the fun was over…

    Someone once asked me what I believe in, then, if not the big guy in the Charlton Heston outfit up there, and I said, Me. It starts with me, ends with me. I take all the credit for what I do right, and all the blame for when I screw up. Christians, you will notice, do neither. They got God helping them and the Devil to blame when something bad happens.

    Taking responsibility for your own actions is amazingly freeing. It’s like being a grownup, suddenly.

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  5. Its late, but I will look up scripture that states God knows whom will choose him. TULIP theology (calvinsts) believe that God chose those that would be saved, they are his elect (these are 5 point Calvinists) . Calvinists point to scriptures that support their belief. You have 4 point Calvinists…. These say that God chooses those that he knew would choose him…. This allows them to say God gave us free will. 5 point Calvinists do not believe God gave us free will.

    • Ephesians 1:4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight.

      1 Thessalonians 1:4
      For we know, brothers and sisters loved by God, that he has chosen you,

      2 Tim 2:19
      Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”

      There’s a lot more out there. God knows who will choose him and he knew before he created the universe. Also, calvinists believe that babies or children that die and were not his elect, go to hell.

      I might go through point by point too because once you start thinking about it, it sounds crazy (like killing women, children, and all live stock when they did nothing wrong)

      • There are some scriptures that if you were to isolate from the rest of the Bible would appear to confirm this idea that God chose all who would and wouldn’t be saved. But if we study the whole Bible we will quickly find that there are others verses that would be hard to reconcile with this doctrine of predestination.

        John 1:6
        “There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that ALL men through him might be saved.”

        We know that God didn’t choose specific people out before the beginning of creation because it says in Genesis 6 that God repented that he ever made made man on the earth because they were so wicked. This indicates that clearly God didn’t foresee man becoming this corrupt and it implies that it’s not enough for God to call us, but we also have the responsibility of receiving God’s call The implication of Ephesians 1:4 is that God created mankind to live before him holy and blameless.

        It is true that only God can draw people to him, God will often elect (ekloge) people such as the nation of Israel or the apostle Paul by revealing himself to them in special ways, by revealing his majesty to them they are in essence receiving more grace, and to whom more is give more will be required, but we know that even God’s elect can fall away, this has been made clear in the nation of Israel.

        Furthermore, it’s important to note that the word elect is used interchangeably for two greek words, ekloge and eklektos. The word ekloge like I already mentioned is used to describe those who were sovereignly selected out by God for a greater portion of his knowledge and understanding, the word eklektos is used to describe those who receive God’s call through the preaching of the gospel.

        “so go to the street corner and invite to the banquet anyone that you can find.. for many care called, but few however are elect (Eklektos)” Matthew 22:9

        But the Lord said, “Go, for Saul is my chosen (ekloge) instrument to take my message to the Gentiles and to kings, as well as to the people of Israel. Acts 9:15

        Essentially the ekloge are vessels that bring God’s call to the whole world, they are ambassadors for the kingdom of heaven, and whoever is saved through
        them also partake in the election and become chosen (eklektos),

        Luke 10:16

        “Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me.”

        Just like John describes in the passage at the top, Gods elect are called to be instruments of salvation to the whole world that all people might be saved. As ambassadors we carry the call of God inside of us, so whoever we preach to is thus called by God to the Gospel of Christ which to all who believe.

        “For God so loved the world that He sent His only beggoten Son, that WHOEVER believes shall not perish but have everlasting life”

        • I was not a calvanist when I was a Christian, read 1 John 1:10, basically states that Jesus came to the world not to condemn it but to save it. But calvanist feel that when the scripture is talking about Israel that it is God’s elect. Also “world” does not mean world, it means his elect.

          I’ve never heard your theology about God knowing having foreknowledge,

          Psalms 139:4
          Even before there is a word on my tongue, Behold, O LORD, You know it

          Romans 8:29
          For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren

          How could there be prophets from God if God doesn’t know the future?

  6. Yeah in order for Calvinist to believe what they do they basically have to cherry-pick certain scriptures, while completely skewing or ignoring the rest of them.

    With regards to Psalms 139:4 I would be inclined to reconcile this verse with:

    Luke 6:45
    “The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart.”

    Matthew 12:34
    “.. for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.”

    Essentially God knows our hearts, ergo He knows what we will say before we do.

    Yes Romans 8:29-30 are known in the Calvinist doctrine as the Golden Chain of Redemption, these scriptures are the foundation for their entire doctrine. I actually dedicated a whole post to these two verses where I break them down in their Greek translation to explain why the Calvinist interpretation of them is false. https://howdoyouknowme.wordpress.com/2015/03/20/the-golden-chain-of-redemption-broken/

    With regards to prophets speaking that which will transpire in the future, we are to understand that God is sovereign, and is capable of accomplishing anything He desires, He could reveal his majesty to the whole world and cause all to bow down and worship Him, He can accomplish all that He desires, this is what it means by sovereignty, but notice that sovereignty is not the same thing as omniscient. Because God is sovereign He can do anything, which means that He can create creatures with free-will, you can’t not foreknow what someone with free-will is going to do, this of course doesn’t mean that Gods foresight and insight into the affairs of man is not perfectly supreme. Ultimately God is doing a sovereign work in this world, it’s our choice to either be with Him, or against HIm.

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