Southern Baptist Pastor Has His Mind Blown by Equality

This story and video clip (found at the bottom of the linked news story and this post) are awesome.

Basically, a Finnish television network dropped a Southern Baptist creationist into Nordic communities and the results were simply hilarious:

In an episode of Yle’s The Norden, Summit Church of West Georgia Lead Pastor Marty McLain tells the network that he is a creationist who believes in the story of the Garden of Eden, and that there is a “literal Hell.”

“The Bible does refer to — in the book of Revelations — the lake of fire,” he explains.

In a trailer for the episode, McLain interviews people on the street in an attempt to find someone in the Nordic countries he visits who believes in God.

“If there’s no god, why should I believe in him?” one man asks the pastor.

I wonder what the pastor thought when he was told s that god didn’t exist or that because no one has seen him, there was no reason to believe in such an entity.

It probably came as quite a shock to the pastor who is probably surrounded by like-minded people the majority of the time.

But it gets better:

The Southern Baptist pastor points out that the Danish government had forced churches to treat LGBT people equally when it came to marriage rights.

“The parliament, the government says you must perform same-sex marriages in the church,” McClain notes. “Wow!”

Wow! You mean the government made sure that everyone – including churches – weren’t allowed to discriminate based on sexual orientation?

The horror!

So his response to equality was…

“I believe same-sex attraction is a sin,” McLain later tells a Yle interviewer. “When it comes to homosexuality, the worst thing I can do to somebody is say, ‘You know, God made you that way, and he wants you to that way, and God’s all for a homosexual relationship.’”

“When you look in the Bible, you see what God says about homosexuality,” he adds. “I have to deny so much of scripture in order to give that type of counsel.”

Yes, the worst thing you can do is support them and treat them as human beings. That would be so, so wrong.

I also love how throughout the clip, the people who the pastor approaches look at him as if he has seven heads. It’s like they can’t believe that this backwards individual is standing in front of them.

In one part, the pastor tells someone that evolution isn’t proven and that there isn’t a missing link. The guy seems shocked and he just skips right over the subject.

The pastor is right about having to ignore parts of the bible (shockingly small parts, actually) to treat same-sex couples equally and fairly. It’s part of the reason why we shouldn’t be governed by ancient texts from a primitive culture. We can learn from them and move on. There is no need to believe those words were written by god or inspired by god. They were written by men and were inspired by the men of that era.

I love the concept of this television show and I hope I get the chance to watch the full episode when it comes out.



  1. Interviewer”What does that say about Sweden?”

    McLain: “Well, I reckon is says to each his own,…..there is no fundamental base, it’s whatever you’d like.”

    He says it with a bit of disgust as if that’s such a revolting thought. The focus seemed to be on homosexuality so between consenting adults that’s exactly the way it should be.

  2. As someone who lives in a state boarding Georgia (a transplant), watching that video reminds me of how embarrassed I get sometimes to admit that I am an American, much less one who lives in the bible belt. The video is a stark reminder that the Nordic countries (also the most peaceful) are far more evolved than America.

    Excellent post.

  3. That video is another example of Christian arrogance. “As a Christian, I don’t believe that all religion is equal.” Meaning he believes that Christianity is the only true religion. And he is so dismissive of any other views. How many times did the pastor shake his head, roll his eyes, and say “wow,” as if he couldn’t believe that people don’t believe in God or in Christianity.

    And that graphic at the opening — the one that shows the percentage of people who say that religion is important to them — is very telling about the gullibility and irrationality of Americans when it comes to religion. Thanks for sharing this.

  4. I remember years ago visiting Lebanon. Away from my comfortable Christian community in the U.S., there I was in a vastly different culture. The feeling that overwhelmed me was “Where is God?” I wondered how much of my experience of God was simply my comfortable Christian community.

    I wonder how this pastor felt in Sweden? Did it ever enter his mind that he might be wrong? When faced with whole nations of people who do not share his beliefs, did he pause and think, or did he rationalize it all away, and go back home and tell everyone how messed up the rest of the world is (ignoring that they are measurably better off than us in many ways)?

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