I made a comment on a blog a few days ago, correcting a Christian’s assertion that atheism has fundamentals as well as this little tidbit:
In it I argue that our fundamentalist atheists are so blind and irrational in their hatred of Christianity that they are prepared to get rid of the best bulwark against militant Islam, in order to get rid of us. It is a foolish and short sighted approach. Who in their right mind could think that the answer to Islamic fundamentalism is to get rid of C of E schools?!
Another blogger asked me a question, which I think deserves an answer. It also provides me with another opportunity to refute some fairly common atheist myths. If you’d like to read the original article and comment, please follow the link:
Here is the first part of the question:
GC – it is your claim that there are no fundamentals of atheism. Explain what a belief in the non-existance of th monotheistic Abrahamic God is if that is not a fundamental.
It is not a belief in the non-existence of your God. It’s a lack of belief.
Religious people have made a claim that such an entity exists and I don’t believe you. It’s the same process you and other religious people probably went through when presented with other god ideas, such as Vishnu, Odin etc. It’s the same process you’d employ if I told you invisible gnomes exist – you’d ask for evidence. If I said you had to take it on faith, you’d probably laugh in my face.
In order to have a fundamental belief, you must have fundamental beliefs to get back to. There is no belief structure associated with atheism, just like there is no belief structure associated to your (probable) lack of belief in Zeus. A lack of belief does not constitute a belief.
You made the claim that Christianity and Islam are full of dangerous ideas. What evidence can you provide for this and what can you say to be convincing that atheism is not “dangerous”.
I’m starting to wonder if this person has read the bible or Qur’an. I think the idea that homosexuals are abominations is a dangerous idea, and we’ve seen it play out in both Islam and Christianity.
For example, fundamentalists Christians in both Russia and Uganda are imprisoning and hunting down homosexuals. In Uganda, they wanted to pass a ‘kill the gay‘ bill. Reports have trickled out that American evangelicals are at least partially responsible for the surge in hatred towards homosexuals.
In Islamic countries, homosexuals don’t fair well at all:
Yemen: According to 1994 penal code, married men can be sentenced to death by stoning for homosexual intercourse. Unmarried men face whipping or one year in prison. Women face up to seven years in prison.
This is just one area where ancient prejudices have been passed down via these ‘holy books’. When taken literally, both the bible and The Qur’an contain violent, prejudicial, barbaric advice that I think is extremely harmful.
If that isn’t enough, I’ll name a few more off the top of my head:
- The eternal torture chamber called hell
- That genocide is acceptable in some cases
- That stoning is an acceptable punishment
- That women should be draped head to foot in a bag so that they don’t entice men to rape them
- That we should love an invisible, primitive carpenter in the sky more than we love the actual people in our lives, including our children
- That a human blood sacrifice is all that’s needed for forgiveness
As far as atheism being dangerous goes, what sort of evidence do you want? Would the fact that atheists are underrepresented in prisons help? Or how about the fact that some of the least religious countries have some of the happiest citizens and some of the lowest crime rates?
That doesn’t necessarily mean there is a correlation between religiosity and crime, but it does show that you don’t have to be religious to live happily and crime free. At the very least, it shows atheism is no more dangerous than religiosity.
If all we are are just blobs of carbon, that is a dangerous belief to have.
Isn’t it the Christian view that we’re blobs of dirt and a rib?
With a little magic involved, of course…
You’re misrepresenting atheism.
For example, I can be an atheist and believe in a soul. I could believe in ghosts or reincarnation. Atheism is a lack of belief in a deity. Nothing more and nothing less.
And if it’s a dangerous belief to have, please provide evidence this is so. Also, I’m not going to be supporting one idea (Christianity) that I think isn’t true, just to combat another idea (Islam) that I think isn’t true.